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The Society Projects

Y-DNA project


The use of DNA testing for genealogists

Genealogy has to date been based on oral tradition and documentary evidence. In the last few years the science of genetics has offered a new tool - Y-DNA testing. Our DNA is made up of a number of chromosomes. The Y chromosome is only held by a man and passes from father to son. Where, therefore, people of the same name share the same DNA signature, there is a degree of probability that they also share a common ancestor. If oral tradition and documentary evidence also support this relationship, the degree of probability is significantly heightened.

The origins and distribution of the O’Donoghues (however spelt) in Ireland over time

There are eight known O'Donoghue ancient tribal areas in Ireland. They were in Munster: Tipperary, Cork/Kerry - Leinster: Kilkenny, Wicklow/Dublin, Meath - Connaught: Galway, Mayo/Sligo, Cavan. Considerable migration took place over the centuries and family groups took root in many other counties (eg Clare, Limerick, Waterford, Roscommon and others), which would today be recognised as their areas of origin.

People who can participate

This project is primarily for society members’ benefit, but guest researchers and a wide cross-section of people from different parts of Ireland will be invited to participate in order to build as comprehensive a database as possible. The findings of the project will be made available to all, within the privacy protocols described below. The spelling of the name has enormous variation (around 300 variants) today and this project is relevant to everyone.
If you are a female researcher, you should encourage your male O'Donoghue relatives to join the project on your behalf.

Administration of the project

We have a three person team. Elizabeth O'Donoghue/Ross (Ireland) is our Group Administrator. Elizabeth is the primary interface with participants and FTDNA, our laboratory service provider. She maintains our analysis routines and produces reports and results data. She liaises with the Breifne Clans Project (Donohoes of Cavan).

Tighe O’Donoghue/Ross (Ireland) provides expertise on ancient history and interprets the results in tribal/sept terms. He liaises with the other tribes/septs (MacCarthy, O’Shea, O’Moore etc). I (Rod) am the third member and handle communications to the society.

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) www.familytreedna.com has been chosen as the society’s service provider. They work with the Arizona Research Labs at the University of Arizona to do all the technical and laboratory work. They operate to the strictest privacy guidelines. They have the largest database, which enables people who match each other to to be put in touch, helping to uncover common ancestors.

Other known related projects

We maintained contact with the Trinity College Dublin Irish Clans project with whom other societies and chiefs were working. The Donohoes of Cavan sponsored a portion of this medium term TCD project, for which no personal results were available for the individual. The portion supported was that relating to Brian McEvoy's doctoral thesis, which resulted in the identification of the Ui Neill modal haplotype (now known as the Northwest Irish modal haplotype), later established as the first known haplogroup of Irish origin, defined by the M222 mutation. FTDNA have other projects with historically related names – McCarthy, O Mahony and Donnachaidh, for instance. There is a family project in County Clare with which Hilary de Birch (Member 81) is involved.

There is a new Munster Irish Y-DNA Project recently launched at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/MunsterIrish/ which is focusing on the heritage of the early peoples who populated the province and comparing their genetic relationships as indicated by Y-DNA with the claims of early genealogical tracts and annals.

Privacy

FTDNA maintain strict privacy protocols which can be viewed on www.familytreedna.com/ftGroupQRGuide.html#GroupStatus. The DNA data belongs to the individual DNA provider and can only be released to a wider audience with the express permission of that provider.

How to join the project

Go to the FTDNA page at http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=G98362&special=True&proj

Costs

Family Tree offers 12, 25, 37, 67 and 111 marker tests. The higher the number of markers chosen, the greater the detail with which we can compare results. We recommend ordering a minimum of 37 markers, which costs US$ 149. Though some members have 12 or 25, the majority of participants have at least this number of markers, and a growing number are requesting upgrades to 67 and 111. You can always upgrade to more markers later on, but it is a bit more economical to order a higher number from the start.

Other helpful DNA web sites

http://www.bartondna.info/
http://blairgenealogy.com/
http://www.duerinck.com/surname.html
http://www.ybase.org/
http://genealogy.about.com/cs/geneticgenealogy/

We hope that many of you will find this project of real interest and wish to participate. If you have any questions please contact our Group Administrator, Elizabeth O'Donoghue at elizabethod@eircom.net.

Short term objective

Scope and objectives of the project
For the short term
* To aid those who are encountering barriers to their family history research to make breakthroughs.
* To build a data base of DNA patterns for the different origin locations across Ireland, providing directional guidance for those who do not know where their ancestors came from.
* To confirm known or suspected relationships in historic areas of O’Donoghue occupation (such as the O’Donoghues of Glenflesk/Killarney) or for people for whom oral tradition describes migration from a common location (such as the migration to Clare from Kerry).

Medium term objective

For the medium term
* Through use of the data base, to aid research into historic tribal migration and sept/clan/family group origins (eg the O’Mahonys and O’Donoghues both from Eoghanacht Raithlind).
* To co-ordinate with other societies to improve the knowledge of inter-sept relationships and common ancestry (eg MacDonogh MacCarthys in Cork).
* To compare these patterns with national/regional population profiles using a representative control group. If the incidence of a DNA signature is more common within the surname than in a wider control population the degree of probability/validity is increased.
As our database grows, these objectives will be increasingly realised.

Administrative organisation

Rod O'Donoghue (rod@odonoghue.co.uk) - Project leader
Elizabeth O'Donoghue/Ross (elizabethod@eircom.net) - Group administrator
Tighe O'Donoghue/Ross (odonoghueross@eircom.net) - Tribal history expert

Results

The quarterly reports on the progress of the project are available below, as well as the annual reports for the Breifne Clans project. All reports are in PDF format.

Issue 1 : July 2003

Issue 2 : October 2003

Issue 3 : January 2004

Issue 4 : April 2004

Issue 5 : July 2004

Issue 6 : October 2004

Issue 7 : January 2005

Issue 8 : April 2005

Issue 9 : July 2005

Issue 10 : October 2005

Issue 11 : January 2006

Issue 12 : April 2006 & Breifne Clans Report 2 (abridged)

Issue 13 : October 2006

Issue 14 : January 2007

Issue 15 : April 2007 & Breifne Clans Report 3 (abridged)

Issue 16 : July 2007

Issue 17 : October 2007

Issue 18 : January 2008

Issue 19 : April 2008

Issue 20 : Breifne Clans Project Report 4

Issue 21 : July 2008

Issue 22 : October 2008

Issue 23 : January 2009

Issue 24 : April 2009

Issue 25 : July 2009

Issue 26 : BCP Report 5 Part 1: List of Participants and Subgroup assignments & Introduction

Issue 27 : BCP Report 5 Part 2: Irish R1b-M222 - Group A Overview & Subgroup A1

Issue 28 : BCP Report 5 Part 3 Irish R1b-M222 - Subgroup A2, Group A Various Lineages & Group A Summary

Issue 29 : BCP Report 5 Part 4: Irish R1b Other - Subgroup B1

Issue 30 : BCP Report 5 Part 5: Irish R1b Other - Subgroup B2

Issue 31 : BCP Report 5 Part 6: Irish R1b Other - Subgroup D1

Issue 32 : BCP Report 5 Part 7: Irish R1b Other - Group O Overview & Subgroup O1

Issue 33 : BCP Report 5 Part 8: Irish R1b Other - Subgroup P1

Issue 34 : BCP Report 5 Part 9: Mixed Haplogroups - Groups X & Y

Issue 35 : BCP Report 5 Part 10: Conclusion - Summary

Issue 36 : BCP Report 5 Part 11: Conclusion - References

Issue 37 : October 2009

Issue 38 : January 2010

Issue 39 : April 2010

Issue 40 : July 2010

Issue 41 : October 2010

Issue 42 : January 2011

Issue 43 : April 2011

Issue 44 : July 2011

Issue 45 : October 2011

Issue 46 : January 2012

Issue 47 : April 2012

Issue 48 : July 2012

Issue 49 : October 2012

Issue 50 : January 2013

Issue 51 : April 2003