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22.11.2018

 

Martin O'Neill and RTE soccer correspondent Tony O'Donoghue were involved in some very tetchy exchanges during the Derry native's five-year term in charge of the Republic of Ireland.

O'Neill famously accused O'Donoghue of a 'verbal attack' after Ireland's 5-1 World Cup playoff defeat to Denmark last year following the UEFA Nations League draw back in January.

It wasn't the first time that O'Neill that they had been involved in tense interviews but it certainly was the most memorable.

Reacting to the news of O'Neill's departure on Today with Sean O'Rourke on RTE Radio One, O'Donoghue said: "The reporter should never be the story, should they, and in that instance I was only trying to ask questions in that I expected the viewers and listeners wanted asked.

"He's a man who is sensitive to criticism and that's just not to me or to RTE, but I mean, recently we haven't had the live rights and I've seen him take offence to other reporters as well.

"Right back through his career, when he was a player with Nottingham Forest, people would write letters to the local newspaper and he would take note of them and at the end of a good season with Nottingham Forest he would write back to them.

"So he bears grudges and didn't enjoy or take criticism, I suppose none of us, take criticism lightly. Again, that's another reason he was determined, I'd say, to stay on and to, I suppose, improve or leave a better legacy in his wake as Republic of Ireland manager."

O'Neill had been at the helm since 2013, leading the country to the last 16 of Euro 2016, and stands down by mutual consent after a disappointing UEFA Nations League campaign.

O'Donoghue did point out that there had been many memorable moments including the victory over then World champions Germany at the Aviva, the playoff win over Bosnia and the win over Italy at Euro 2016 that sent us through to the knockout stages of the competition.

"You have to look at the other side of it as well and say the games where he was in charge, there have been highlights... we did beat world champions Germany, we beat Bosnia, at a much higher seed than us, we beat Italy at the European Championship and, away from home, where we couldn't buy a win for years, we beat Austria.,"

"Those are things that will definitely go in the credit column. Although there's a lot in the debit as well."

http://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/football/he-bears-grudges-rtes-tony-odonoghue-reacts-to-martin-oneills-ireland-departure/ar-BBPWqJV?ocid=ientp
 

15.10.2018
  Submitted by Diane Donohue
15.10.2018
   Submitted by Diane Donohue
15.10.2018
Basil David O'Donoghue   1914 – 1942
 
 
Basil O'Donoghue, (Lieutenant RANVR,) died on 7 December 1942 when the ship he was travelling on, the S.S. Ceramic, was torpedoed off the Azores by the German U-boat U-515.
 
He was 28 years of age, and the only son of David Flynn and Florence Mary O'Donoghue, of Malvern, Victoria, Australia.  He was also the brother of Kathleen O'Donoghue (Sr. Mary Angela), whose obituary appeared in the July 2018 issue of the O'Donoghue Society journal.
 
The Ceramic had been built as a passenger liner for the England – Australia run and launched in1912.  During WW1 it was used as a troop ship, and at the end of the war it became a passenger ship again,
 
After WW2  broke out, some ships had to be used to carry people with a legitimate reason for travelling between England and Australia, and the Ceramic was chosen.
She made several successful trips. It was a calculated risk but okay so long as it succeeded. She almost always carried some women and children.
 
On 3 November 1942, Ceramic left Liverpool  bound once more for Australia via the Cape of Good Hope. On board were 656 passengers and crew, including military and naval personnel, British Army nursing sisters and more than 100 civilians, including 12 children. Also on board were 16 men from the Royal Australian Navy: three were gunners attached to the Ceramic and the remaining were travelling home to Australia as passengers. Basil O'Donoghue was one of these.
 
On the night of December 7, 1942, a torpedo hit the ship but didn't sink it. The ensuing story of what happened is tragic. The U-boat Commander, Werner Henke, failed to help the survivors already in lifeboats. 350  people were still alive when the U-boat left the scene.  In fact he actually gave orders for  his sub to submerge even though crew members alerted him to the fact that there were people clinging to it.
He picked up one survivor, sapper Eric Munday, who was taken to a POW camp in Germany, and for ten months relatives of passengers and crew knew nothing of the tragedy.  The sinking of SS Ceramic remains one of the worst shipping disasters of all time.
 
In an interesting footnote to the tragedy, Henke, was captured by the Americans when they sank U-515 in April 1944  north of Madeira. Believing he was wanted by British authorities on charges of war crimes relating to SS Ceramic, Henke tried to escape, and was shot by guards as he attempted to climb the fence of the POW interrogation centre in Fort Hunt, Virginia, where he was being held.
 
https://www.navyhistory.org.au/the-loss-of-the-ss-ceramic-december-1942/2/
Submitted by Helen O'Donoghue
09.10.2018

My periodic update, in shorthand, on our progress.  In the June email I covered the results of our March survey. 

Projects and volunteering

After the survey we set up a number of projects.  Here’s three:

Laura Bravo, Truman Donoho, Dee Gilmore-Stewart and I will be working on a 12 point programme to improve our communications and ongoing interaction.  This effort will start in the New Year.

John Pozega and I have prepared a preliminary project and technical specification to capture circa 1880s census or equivalent data across the world.  1881 UK is already on the Resources area.  Once accomplished we would ask people to find their family and add their tree.  To make faster progress we need some volunteers with data collection skills.  Get in touch if you think you can help.

Michael O’Donohue, the instigator of our Meet an O’Donoghue feature, has made contact with the people of the name on Continental Europe. 
The more volunteers we get, the more we get done.  If you’ve got a skill we can use it.

Family history research service

The search for a descendant of Arthur James Donoghue, wounded in WW1, for the Commonwealth Graves Commission resulted in us finding one.   Sadly Arthur died in 1921. The Commission want to agree the script on the headstone with a living relative.  The volunteers who did the work are to be congratulated, in particular Kathleen Lott, Paula Kennedy and John Pozega.

We have had some good projects since we started this service, but I must say that I am surprised more people haven’t taken advantage of it.  We can’t promise to solve your problem but we will try.

Snippets

In April I said “When I ask for journal articles they may seem like a lot of work to some, but if I just threw out a limited subject like the Spanish flu and suggested that folk just send me a small bite on how it affected their family, perhaps that may seem more doable.   No need to conjure up beautiful prose.”  However I didn’t follow up… but I will!  Next one shortly…
 
Name variants

We now have over 870 variants on the site.  Some are historic that never appeared again, but many still exist today. 

Meet an O’Donoghue

Thirty pins are on the map of which 15 are in the USA.  Has anyone made contact?

Forums

Underused – why?  To be found under Connections and Community

That’s it for now.  Lots going on.

Cheers

Rod
 
09.10.2018

Submitted by Dee Gilmore-Stewart

From http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=404772.0

According to family history my great grandfather Captain John O'Donoghue was lost at sea. On the family headstone it has his date of death as 31/12/1902. I don't have any other details such as ship, is there somewhere I could find this out ?

Submitted  by Jim Horgan

I don't have a lot of information about Edward Donohue, he's a distant 2nd cousin.  But he died during the invasion of Normandy June 6, 1944.
Apparently, he was killed while still in his landing craft and never made it to shore.
Not sure this applies to your criteria, but he is the only one I have information on.
 
Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current View Record
Name: Pvt Edward D Donohue
Death Date: 6 Jun 1944
Death Place: France
Cemetery:
Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial Burial or Cremation Place Colleville-sur-Mer, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Has Bio? N
URLhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56644020
 
Submitted by Ronnie O'Donoghue
 

I went to a clairvoyant once who told me my ancestor Ivor O’Donoghue died on the ship emigrating to America - “three of us slipped into the sea together” he said. My first cousin in Glenflesk is called Sean Ivor - he must have been named after Ivor who was lost at sea.

Submitted by Carol Hurley Law


My great granduncle, John Donoghue, died at sea, sometime in 1851, just 7 years old.   Do not know what he died of.  He was the oldest child of my maternal great grandparents, Mary Moynighan and Florence Donoghue, married in Killarney in 1844.   He had a younger sister Mary, b. in 1846.   They immigrated from the Killarney area.   I don't know from where they sailed, possibly Cobh, or where they landed in the United States.    They eventually settled on "Irish Mountain" in Summers County, West Virginia.  Had several more children in America, one being my grandfather, Patrick Donahoe (U.S. spelling) in 1857 (d. 1925), father of my mother, Irene Donahoe Hurley, 1901-1986.     An interesting project.   History tells us that many immigrants died at sea.   Young John is the only one I know about in my family.

Submitted by Barbara Lee
 

Moses Donohoe of Kilmuckridge, Co Wexford was drowned in the wreck of the Général Abbatucci off the north coast of Corsica on 7th May 1869, while travelling from Marseilles to Civitavecchia. It was involved in a collision with the 500-ton Norwegian barquentine, the Edward Herdt, holed, and sank within two hours.  Moses was 24, and was a recruit to the Papal armies defending the Pope from Garibaldi. He was the son of Peter and Catherine Donohoe of Killincooley, Co Wexford. He is recorded on his father's gravestone in Killincooley Old Graveyard. 
Moses is the subject of "The Ballad of Moses Donohoe" in the book "Songs of the Wexford Coast" by Father Joseph Ranson, a collection of ballads Fr Ranson gathered from old singers.
Moses's elder brother was the priest Fr Michael Donohoe who is buried in Kilmuckridge RC church and who is commemorated in a stained-glass window there.   

See the January 2012 journal for the ballad of Moses Donohue

Submitted by Diane Donohue

From British Newspaper Archive
08.10.2018

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/art-and-design/lost-at-sea-1.617344
October 8 2018

IF YOU LOOK out to the vastness of the Atlantic from the Mullet peninsula in northwest Mayo on a winter’s day, it can feel as if you’re perched at the edge of the world.

There are islands even further to the west, though, at the edge of the edge, many of them visible from the shore, depending on the weather. Among the larger are the Inishkea islands, north and south. Deserted today, they show signs of long habitation, and they were populated, although not necessarily continuously, since the Bronze Age. In 1855, 53 families were registered as living on the two islands, which were finally abandoned in the 1930s. The story of the islands, and the people who lived there latterly, provide the subject matter for artist Hughie O’Donoghue’s current exhibition, Last Days on the Islands, which can be seen at 29 Molesworth Street in Dublin.

O’Donoghue’s mother and her family were from northwest Mayo, “the Barony of Erris . . . the wildest, loneliest stretch of country to be found in all Ireland”, as the naturalist Robert Lloyd Praeger described it. O’Donoghue came to know the area through annual holiday visits. Some years ago, he and his wife Clare began looking for a house they might buy in the region. “We looked at a place on the shore of the Mullet. The house had been the home of a family of Inishkea islanders after they were taken off the islands. A house and a plot of land on the islands went with the house on the mainland.”

Since he began visiting islands off the west of Ireland, the harshness and beauty of the environment, and the elemental relationship of the inhabitants to the Atlantic, have increasingly interested him as a subject. He looked into the history of the Inishkeas. The most recent community to have inhabited the islands may have settled there sometime around the mid-18th century, or they may have been there longer. They earned a reputation as a tough, independent people who refused to pay taxes and elected their own leaders. They were skilled, keen-sighted sailors, known for their resourcefulness and their poitín-making. During the famine years they reputedly turned to piracy to survive – and survive they did

“There is also the Naomhóg,” O’Donoghue notes. The Naomhóg was a stone totem. For the islanders, it possessed talismanic properties. It was a charm and a protector and they looked after it carefully. The story got around that they were idolising the stone. In a manner of speaking, if the poitín brought the police to the islands, the Naomhóg brought the clergy.

The story goes that a priest arrived from the mainland and threw the stone into the sea. O’Donoghue’s paintings draw on the account of the Naomhóg as well as other elements in the accounts of the islands. “As with a lot of my work there is an imagined narrative.” The allegorical narrative he constructs refers to the symbolic role of the magic stone, the islanders’ efforts to maintain their freedom, and “the last days before the tragedy that struck in 1927”.

On the evening of October 27th that year, 60 men in 30 currachs set off fishing. It was unusually calm. Initially, they were unworried by the low pressure readings on their barometers, but instinct kicked in and most of the currachs turned for home. Six were still far out when a hurricane swept in from the southwest. Ten of the 12 in those currachs, mostly young men, perished, and just two made it to the mainland.

The tragedy, O’Donoghue says, “took the heart out of the islands and they never recovered”. Gradually the people looked to the mainland and were moved off the islands, often to houses on the sandy western shore of the Mullet, within sight of their old homes.

There are various documentary historical records of the Inishkeas. Brian Dornan’s book Mayo’s Lost Islands(Four Courts Press), and Rita Nolan’s Within the Mullet provide the fullest published accounts. There’s film of the islanders shot in 1908, when Norwegians set up a whaling station there. The project eventually came to grief because, reputedly, of the heated rivalry between North and South Inishkea. Earlier, in 1895, the ethnographer Charles Browne visited and took photographs of the islanders. The photographs, O’Donoghue says, “look like old fashioned anthropology”, in that they are very formalised, a bit like police mug-shots.

The islanders in their distinctive homespun, navy blue clothing, have a stubborn, weather-beaten look about them. These images provided “a loose starting point” for the paintings. “Some of them at least are smiling in the photographs,” notes O’Donoghue, but there is generally little in the way of expression. In his paintings, it is as if the heads are embedded in the landscape, recalling his treatment of the Iron Age preserved bog figures in an earlier series of works. Scraped into some of the surfaces are images of flowering plants that manage to gain a foothold in even the most challenging locations.

O’Donoghue has made 16 paintings so far on the subject of the islands – 12 of them are on view in his solo show, one is in the RHA Annual exhibition – and he plans to develop others. As is often the case with his work, it is tied to a specific place and to specific people and events, but it also allows much wider, allegorical readings. The idea of a community that loses the magic ingredient that holds it together, and loses the will to persevere, is as resonant and relevant today as ever, perhaps more so. But still, it would be nice if one day some of the work is shown in Mayo.

Last Days on the Islands, presented by Yello Gallery, is at 29 Molesworth Street, Dublin

06.10.2018
The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, and The New York Times ran editorials today opposing Brett Kavanaugh to be the next U.S. Supreme Court Justice. This is hardly surprising. What is most disturbing about them is their dishonesty: they fail to mention their real reason for opposing him — abortion.

The Los Angeles Times says that "We oppose Kavanaugh's nomination not because of his judicial philosophy," but because of "lingering doubts" about the allegations and his "evasive and intemperate testimony."

The Washington Post says that when Kavanaugh was chosen by President Trump, he "seemed to be...an accomplished judge whom any conservative president might have picked," but "given Republicans' refusal to properly vet Mr. Kavanaugh, and given what we have learned about him during the process, we now believe it would be a serious blow to the court and the nation if he were confirmed."

The New York Times says that "President Trump has no shortage of highly qualified very conservative candidates to choose from, if he will look beyond this first, deeply compromised choice."

None of the editorials mentioned a word about Roe v. Wade, "reproductive rights," a "woman's right to choose," or abortion. Yet it was this issue that galvanized them to oppose Kavanaugh on July 10, the day after Trump chose him to be his nominee. Here is what they said.

"We worry about the future of reproductive freedom" is how The Los Angeles Times put it. The editorial in The Washington Post objected to Kavanaugh's "narrow view of what constitutes an undue burden on a woman's right to end her pregnancy." The New York Times left no one wondering what it thought: it ran four op-ed articles bemoaning Kavanaugh's views on abortion.

What makes this so nauseating is the fact that these same papers insist that the Catholic Church is hung up on sex. Nonsense. It is not the Church that is obsessed with sex — it's The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, and, most especially, The New York Times. Their refusal to admit why they really oppose Kavanaugh only adds to their deceitfulness.

Dr. William Donohue is the president and CEO of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights. The publisher of the Catholic League journal, Catalyst, Donohue is a former Bradley Resident Scholar at the Heritage Foundation and served for two decades on the board of directors of the National Association of Scholars. He is the author of seven books, and the winner of several teaching awards and many awards from the Catholic community.

https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/kavanaugh-abortion-supreme-court/2018/10/05/id/885035/?ns_mail_uid=dc1174f2-8121-41ac-8159-802bfe002000&ns_mail_job=DM6680_10062018&s=acs&dkt_nbr=0105041c1rr3

Friday 5 October 2018